Initial Thoughts
Sep 20th, 2009 | By Fantastic Homosexual | Category: The Fantastic Homosexual
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Fuck this shit. Fuck homophobes and their fucked up insecurities. Fuck coming out. Fuck “I don’t know how to tell you this” and sleepless nights trying to get the balls to say two fucking words. Fuck having to feel guilt for years about who’s in your bed, backseat of your car, nightclub toilet stall, or parent’s chalet. Fuck friends who use you as their token gay friends, and bullshit sentences like “My really good friend is gay!” Fuck you, your homophobia, and your really good friend. Fuck Facebook statuses that flaunt your sexuality. Actually, fuck Facebook altogether. Fuck fag hags. Get yourself a boyfriend already. Fuck LGBTIQ groups that don’t even know what the fuck these letters stand for. Fuck “we’re the first gay group in the Middle East” bullshit. Fuck HIV, AIDS, infectious diseases and all the damn viruses that associate being gay with the death penalty. Fuck Acid, Milk, Bardo, Wolf, Life Bar, and all those fucking gay ghettoes. You’re pushing us deeper in the closet. Fuck gay friendly places. Gay friendly my ass. If you have to label it that, you’re getting in the way of a gay friendly planet with your ghettoes and isolation bullshit. Fuck Article 534, the police and their violating batons and late night rapes. Fuck gay activists in Lebanon. What the fuck have we done in the past 10 years? Fuck spending our money on your stupid activities that reach out to 16 people from your yellow house. Get in touch with the real world you incestuous idiots. Fuck parents who are so stuck in their fucked up mindset that they throw out their own fucking flesh and blood. Fuck parents who send their kids to therapy for being gay. Fuck the therapists who think they can change us. Fuck the bullies in school who beat us up just after having jerked us off under the desk. Fuck the priests and sheikhs who spread their hate hidden behind their own fucked-up interpretation of some book. Fuck the politicians who are too scared to voice their thoughts on homosexuality, but who have no problems getting sucked off by us. Fuck brothers and sisters who blackmail their gay brothers and sisters to get whatever the fuck they want. Fuck Lebanese movies with ridiculously gay subplots. We’re not a fucking fad that you can use to make you seem progressive. And while you’re at it, fuck cheap knock offs of the “Fuck You” scene of 25th Hour. Fuck newspapers and magazines that feature gay stories to make more money. We’re not your fucking cash cows. Fuck TV shows with sensationalist closet case hosts that would do anything for fucking ratings. Fuck the closet. It is lonely, dark, and fucking hot. Get the fuck out of there. Fuck misogynistic fags. Fuck men hating dykes. Fuck trying to blame our homosexuality on our parents, our education, the war, the West, Israel, our looks, our need for attention, our popularity, our fucking issues. We’re gay. Learn to fucking deal with it. Fuck you for being shocked while reading this. It’s the fucking truth. It’s about time someone said it. Get over your self-conscious conservative hypocrisy and join the real fucking world!
I love this post. Love it.
I love it too! Can’t believe the fantastic homosexual was worried we wouldn’t publish it
Fuck’n Roll
thumbs up;)
its very very foshyet ghol!! ah yeah!!! great!
i feel like standing on a roof top and scream every word of this
i fuckin love it
Thank you for posting this.. THANK YOU!!!
I feel the same pervy .. I love this article, I feel like reading it over and over again…
fantastic homosexual, whoever you are, i fucking love you!
thank you .. thank you .. thank you .. and fuckin thank you!!!
WOW!
though i wouldn’t want to get all of the above commenters on my case, and while fantastic homosexual is obviously fantastic, i have to say, you’re a bit too angry dude (i’m guessing you’re a dude). i’m with you, all for a gay-friendly planet altogether, however, i’m not sure i see how this position can lead you to condemn people who claim “my really good friend is gay”.
this is sort of a “social positioning”. the fact that the mainstream, not exactly able to think for itself, and who mainly abides by the law of social perception are proud to claim themselves gay-friendly is a big sign of change in mentality. had the societal dominance been homophobia, these guys would be claiming it as well. This says a lot about the society you’re in.
Now, fucking homophobes, insecurities and sleepless nights is fine, but fucking Facebook, LGBT, gay bars, gay subplots, magazines and newspapers who write about the issue simply because “they make money out of it” seems a bit out of line.
you’re asking people to live in the real world, while i think you’re the farthest from it.
your hate (and mine) towards sheikhs and priests is conceivable, but don’t forget that a big majority of the population still lives by their rules (sad but true), and they’re not going anywhere anytime soon.
I think, as a homosexual, frustrated by the societal situation concerning you, you should realize articles on homosexuality, bribes of gay scenes in movies and places where gays can meet as such, without risking getting beat up, if not executed, are pretty good signs of an evolution and a great deal of advantages compared to every one of our neighboring countries.
Now if you’re still really pissed, why don’t you try moving to Paris, New York, Amsterdam, or a few dozen other cities (countries) largely ahead of Lebanon concerning the issue at hand.
I am not sure I like it. I actually know that I do not like it. But if all the other gals do, then maybe there is something wrong in me. It is so negative it depresses me. I agree and identify with many lines written above but definitely not with the whole angry piece. If you agree with the whole negative attitude and tone of this opinion and identify with it than you are dismissing all the great work that you have done and the achievements you have accomplished so far, and you have accomplished a lot.
Anger is always attractive but be aware of what you are cheering for girls. Half of what is said makes anyone of us angry, but be careful of the other content that we should actually celebrate and be proud of not shun and reject (gay-safe places, gay-friendly people, gay-supportive publication, gay-empowering facebook and media, gay activism are all good and you in Meem are working hard towards all this).
this is so fucking wonderful! thanks for being so fuckin amazing and voicing over our deepest thoughts and feelings!
“Fuck fag hags. Get yourself a boyfriend already.”
So fag hags only hang out with gay men because they have no boyfriends?
“Fuck LGBTIQ groups that don’t even know what the fuck these letters stand for. Fuck “we’re the first gay group in the Middle East” bullshit.”
Proof?
I love the passion in this post, but it gets to a point of extreme anger that I don’t think does more good than bad.
I didn’t think it was angry at all, or negative for that matter, I thought it was fantastic and very upbeat iza shi
yay for the fantastic homo!
it’s also fucking awesome and strong
powerful stuff!
yay again for fantastic homo!
while this article speaks the mind of many people, I’m not too sure it speaks it it fully and fairly since you almost don’t stand a chance to avoid a “fuck” whether you are for or against, out or in the closet, you will get a gentle “fuck you”. how about we re-think the approach?
I am not sure this is an angry piece. It just seems that some people might be focusing on the word Fuck, and then becoming defensive. The use of the word fuck is to drive the point home. If you replace the word Fuck with the words “I dislike”, you see that the piece is actually much weaker. But if it helps to get the message across, then maybe you should read this “censored” version.
Fantastic piece in my opinion though.
*******
I dislike this stuff. I dislike homophobes and their insecurities. I dislike coming out. I dislike “I don’t know how to tell you this” and sleepless nights trying to get the balls to say two words. I dislike having to feel guilt for years about who’s in your bed, backseat of your car, nightclub toilet stall, or parent’s chalet. I dislike friends who use you as their token gay friends, and bullshit sentences like “My really good friend is gay!” I dislike you, your homophobia, and your really good friend. I dislike Facebook statuses that flaunt your sexuality. Actually, I dislike Facebook altogether. I dislike fag hags. Get yourself a boyfriend already. I dislike LGBTIQ groups that don’t even know what these letters stand for. I dislike “we’re the first gay group in the Middle East” comments. I dislike HIV, AIDS, infectious diseases and all the viruses that associate being gay with the death penalty. I dislike Acid, Milk, Bardo, Wolf, Life Bar, and all those gay ghettoes. You’re pushing us deeper in the closet. I dislike gay friendly places. Gay friendly, yeah right. If you have to label it that, you’re getting in the way of a gay friendly planet with your ghettoes and isolation. I dislike Article 534, the police and their violating batons and late night rapes. I dislike gay activists in Lebanon. What have we done in the past 10 years? I dislike spending our money on your activities that reach out to 16 people from your yellow house. Get in touch with the real world. I dislike parents who are so stuck in their mindset that they throw out their own flesh and blood. I dislike parents who send their kids to therapy for being gay. I dislike the therapists who think they can change us. I dislike the bullies in school who beat us up just after having jerked us off under the desk. I dislike the priests and sheikhs who spread their hate hidden behind their own interpretation of some book. I dislike the politicians who are too scared to voice their thoughts on homosexuality, but who have no problems getting sucked off by us. I dislike brothers and sisters who blackmail their gay brothers and sisters to get whatever they want. I dislike Lebanese movies with ridiculously gay subplots. We’re not fad that you can use to make you seem progressive. And while you’re at it, I dislike cheap knock offs of the “I Dislike You” scene of 25th Hour. I dislike newspapers and magazines that feature gay stories to make more money. We’re not your cash cows. I dislike TV shows with sensationalist closet case hosts that would do anything for ratings. I dislike the closet. It is lonely, dark, and hot. Get out of there. I dislike misogynistic fags. I dislike men hating dykes. I dislike trying to blame our homosexuality on our parents, our education, the war, the West, Israel, our looks, our need for attention, our popularity, our issues. We’re gay. Learn to deal with it. I dislike you for being shocked while reading this. It’s the truth. It’s about time someone said it. Get over your self-conscious conservative hypocrisy and join the real world!
“I thought it was fantastic and very upbeat ”
The article is a lot of things, but I think “upbeat” is overstating it. When you criticize something (rightly or not), it’s highly “upbeat.”
*it’s NOT highly upbeat
lol, sorry about that.
“Fuck gay activists in Lebanon. What the fuck have we done in the past 10 years? Fuck spending our money on your stupid activities that reach out to 16 people from your yellow house. Get in touch with the real world you incestuous idiots.”
Well, we all know who you are referring to when it comes to the “yellow house.” If you have a valid complaint, I think it would be pertinent to state it outright and not in “code.” I think that stating such things in this way is quite offensive to the people in this “yellow house” as you say.
I bet that you need a therapy, fighting homophobia does not come from hater, go check a therapist, you are in a big need, and come out of the closet of your purple house
i agree that this article was written in passion, and most of it is really awesome, i have a comment on 2 thgs in particular.
1- being in the LGBTIQ community do not mean that your out of any religious beliefs or principles, and attaking priests and sheikhs is disrespectful towards the ones who believe and practice their religion, i for one was very offended by this.
2-attaking the activists and bashing everythg they did the past few years is also disrespectful because some poeple put their life on risk for this cause, got fired, got bashed, got beaten for this cause, and u just threw their work away.
it take courage to take such step and say it all, but we must be careful not to over say it and hurt others, our job is to support each other, not to bash each other.
what the FUCK is this?
all i saw here was a lame attempt for attention.
i can use the word fuck in every sentence, i’m oh so cool !
Dude, fuck this! go write smthng in a newspaper or a journal.
Reading this was a waste of time….looking forward to your next article…cz i know u can do better.
This article was just….just….too…Lebanese!
Fuck it.
Is this really truth, or maybe opinion?
I hope “…join the real fucking world!” doesn’t mean to be hidden within the confines of an organisation.
FULL SUPPORT!!
teenage angst!
And I don’t know why they ask us to be respectful in our replies when the article isn’t respectful in itself.
Incestuous idiots? Wow, that’s classy. I can’t believe a human rights NGO would publish an article like this. Meem has lots of growing up to do.
Seriously people! Grow up! This is just someone’s opinion piece. It might be a bit too in your face for some tastes, but the guy brings up very important points. We all need to learn to take a step back and let ourselves be criticized. Why are the people so offended that he brings up issues related to people within the community? Are we beyond any criticism? Are we that perfect?
And I love how this seems to be turning into a Meem vs Helem thing. The guy is not a member of Meem or Helem (I assume for Helem, and I am sure for Meem, since, last I checked, Meem did not have male members). (Yes, it’s a guy who wrote this. The editor describes him as “a fabulous Lebanese gay man” in the editorial)
Let’s read it, think about it, and move on. No?
less anger and more .At the end of this post, one becomes confused, between the anger that is being yelled out on so many levels, with the truth of a lot of the “FUCKS”, and the absurdity of others that seems to be there to fill a space.
I am really sorry as much as I agree with you on a lot of things, your way to voice your opinions is a bit childish and rough around the edges. Anger only begets anger, and lashing out on the world is in no way productive for you, for the cause, and the human race.
I hope you take a breath and keep up the good work.
Nizar
“Why are the people so offended that he brings up issues related to people within the community? Are we beyond any criticism? Are we that perfect?”
This article is criticizing many things but it isn’t criticizing Meem. It is criticizing the “yellow house” in particular. No community is beyond criticism, but based on who runs this website, it is understandable that people who are from the “yellow house” will be offended.
Let me reiterate, it is 100% understandable that people will take it the wrong way because of WHERE it is being published. If this was published on a neutral blog, no one would think twice. HOWEVER, this is NOT a neutral blog, so I think that it would be pertinent for Bekhsoos to write “this does not represent the official stance of Meem” at the top.
Being a man doesn’t mean anything! What if his views match the Meem views and this is all one big trick to bash Helem? LOL, obviously it’s not, but Bekhsoos has not done anything to suppress such thoughts. Please, a bit of PR?
“Bekhsoos.com is a queer arab magazine published weekly by the peeps at Meem”
How were we supposed to know this person was a man who doesn’t represent the views of Meem when this is what is at the top of the page? You did NOT specify that this was not written by a Meem member until we had to make a big fuss.
I think you guys are great, really. But, when I say things like “how about some better PR next time?” it’s for the good of everyone and not just to sound condescending…
Rita, so your only opposition to all of this is that it doesn’t criticize Meem? If it did, then it would be OK?
Again, it is a column, and columns tend to be someone just sharing their thoughts.
It is also important to note that Meem is not an NGO, not a human rights organization, and not an activist group. That sets it apart from Helem that claims to be all those things.
I personally think Helem is stupid to get offended by this. The points are valid, no matter who is saying them. They are a bit too quick to get on the defense.
Meem and meem members are also attacked in this piece, but it looks like they are able to recognize their weaknesses and go from there. This certainly doesn’t seem to be the case for Helem.
Dear “grow up poeple”, 1st let me say that Helem do not claim being ” an NGO, a human rights organization, and an activist group.”, HELEM is all of those with no doubt, but its not the issue here,
and helem did not have any official review against this post, but some members are really frustrated and its more than understandable.
and even if this post is not originally a debate between helem members and meem’s ones , it certainly became so, we need to sort thgs out.
no one would be happy if it tatgeted meem too, i, for one, know some meem members and describe them as real activists, but this post was clearly targeting Helem with their yellow house, so let us not hide under silly answers, and dont think that all this “anger” is always “frickin cool”, i quote u and say: grow up
“Rita, so your only opposition to all of this is that it doesn’t criticize Meem? If it did, then it would be OK?”
No, my opposition is where it is posted.
“Again, it is a column, and columns tend to be someone just sharing their thoughts.”
Then write that. Don’t let it be misunderstood.
“I personally think Helem is stupid to get offended by this. The points are valid, no matter who is saying them. They are a bit too quick to get on the defense.”
I NEVER said Helem. Helem has not taken an official stance. I am speaking on behalf of SOME members of Helem. Please let that be CLEAR. Well, again, it’s not the article in itself that is offensive, it’s the context. You don’t seem to understand this point so I”m going to stop arguing with you.
And let it ALSO be known that I never said the words “Helem” or “Meem” until “Grow up” brought them up. I simply mentioned the “yellow house.” I wanted to be discreet. It is “Grow up” who wants to put it all out in the open for all to see.
hello, i posted something earlier criticizing this piece but decided to ask the moderators to remove it because i posted anonymously and didn’t feel right about that. I think this piece is immature and arrogant and yeah, i understand why people would get excited about it, because it criticizes and problemetizes many pecularities about being gay in lebanon, but i think this is done irresponsibly and not smartly in a number of ways, mentioned by other commenters above.
HAVING SAID THAT: i dont understand why people would get angry with meem about this. this is not a propaganda newsletter. it’s here to give individuals a voice and, you know…celebrate the diversity of views that make up this community (rainbow). and as much i don’t like this piece, if you remove it of the problems that you see in it, it serves exactly that purpose. i think this is obvious. we dont need to require meem to post a disclaimer that says the views expressed in this article do not necessarily reflect the views of meem bla bla bla. please dont do that meem! u rock. keep growing without giving into these corporate culture pressures.
tamara
rita, you talk too much.
fantastic homosexual, you rock
FH – I believe this post accurately vocalizes the anger and disappointment of so many of us in the community. If more people were this honest, I believe the dialogue would be greatly enhanced. Keep doing your thing!
KS
well-said TQ
To mrs. black
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Glad to see you have something constructive to add to the debate.
Dear all,
Meem and Helem compliment each other. They both are fabulous (and each with its own flows). The work done by both is amazing. The community needs both. I see no clash, conflict or issue between the NGO and the Group, there are definitely some misunderstanding and personal conflicts between yellow and purple people but that should be taken outside the professional realm of both houses.
Purple and yellow are only 2 colors of the same rainbow. Yalla, let us all meet for coffee or matte and discuss how much we share in common.
Now, as for this article, I personally do not like it. It talks about a “problem” with no mention of a suggested solution. I also never listen to anger. The message does not come through. Anger pisses me off and makes me stop listening. Looking forward to reading another article from “Fantastic Homo”.
Stay Strong
who ever wrote this article its fucking hilarious.I think fach khel’o mni7…
what ever your sexuality is just live it to the max,don’t let negative people/vibes/articles/opinions/films/songs/prayers/etc…haunt you they will always exist to poison your existence…fuck them
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ooooh aaaamen to that. bloody amazing. love love love love it
Let me start by saying I like how meem opens the door for anyone to write their article and send it to them in the hope that it gets posted, I agree that it does show the diversity of the rainbow.
That being said Tq when u say “i think this is obvious. we dont need to require meem to post a disclaimer that says the views expressed in this article do not necessarily reflect the views of meem bla bla bla. ” I have to disagree with u since the article was followed by a comment by editor (wether it’s the real editor or not!) saying :”I love it too! Can’t believe the fantastic homosexual was worried we wouldn’t publish it ” as if it was to confirm that this article is a window for meem to express hidden feelings!
as for fantastic I should say I don’t necessarily agree with what u say but I like that u felt free enough to say it, that was bold yet the content wasnt quite convincing for me.
Nobody is beyond criticism. If we are not getting criticized, it means that we are not doing anything of any importance. By doing nothing, saying nothing, and therefore, being nothing, we can avoid criticism.
But if we decide to be out there, to get our message across, to change things, to empower people, to fight for our rights, to chase our dream, then we need to be ready to take on criticism with open arms, from the outside, but more importantly, from the inside.
If there is anything we, as the gay people of Lebanon, need, it is to be stronger. We urgently need to understand that the only way we can move forward is by looking backwards and see where we’ve gone wrong. If, along the way, someone comes by and criticizes us, we must take into consideration the criticism, and build on it. We must listen to our critic, and start asking ourselves the questions we have so easily dismissed.
Questions like, Why are we so quick to go on the defensive when anyone says anything about us, not realizing that it may be constructive? Why have we gotten to a point where we differentiate between a yellow house and a purple house? Why are we scared to listen to our critics? When did things get to the point where we can’t disagree without attacking each other?
How each of us reacts to criticism says a lot about where we are heading. If we ignore it, in hopes of it eventually going away, we may end up finding ourselves a few years down the line wishing we had taken it more seriously. If we attack the critic, we may further distance ourselves from an outside view of what we do. But if we embrace it, try to understand it, act on it, then maybe, just maybe, we can come out better, stronger, and more relevant, closer to our dream and on our way to a better world.
well expressed, changing the mindset and the stupid laws is what’s needed in this country.
I agree with you Raja but this piece did not contain any constructive criticism. 2aseff 3ashwe2i ya3ni
I like what I read. I enjoyed the anger.
Audre Lorde once said:
“everything can be useful
except what is wasteful
(you will need
to remember this when you are accused of destruction.)”
Hasan, just because it has the word fuck does not mean it is not constructive.
It points out issues. It doesn’t provide solutions, but it does bring up valid points.
I fucking love this artical..fuck it..its so fucking good!
The article is nothing more than what it is: a display of frustration and anger. Anger is a valid emotion in this context (it would be weird to me to discover that activists aren’t angry). What it is not is constructive. And that’s not a bad thing, it doesn’t have to be, this article just isn’t. I agree with Raja on the vital importance of constructive criticism, but I don’t think the point of this article was to allow for self-reflection and/or self-critique, that is not the type of space that it offers. I saw it as fulfilling a very different function.
“Why have we gotten to a point where we differentiate between a yellow house and a purple house?”
I see no purple house mentioned in the piece
“Why are we scared to listen to our critics? When did things get to the point where we can’t disagree without attacking each other?”
The problem is that it *sounds like* the criticism is coming straight out of the “purple house” because of the place where it is posted. If this was posted on a neutral blog, no one would be upset. It’s the CONTEXT.
*sighs at the futility of this debate*
Rita, at this point, you’re just blabbing on.
I will read the comments before leaving another comment on that but on the article itself I have to say:
I agree with lots and lots of points in the article…. but I don’t see the point of telling everyone “fuck you”, i don’t like the way the gay movement is being managed, I don’t like “gay friendly” places that much and to say the truth, I don’t particularly like gay people in general, are not that different than heterosexual people. I care about gay rights. And yes we tend to get so self-sufficient that we forget that our activism is not really inclusive… what’s the point of writing such an aggressive article? I mean when I want to leave a comment I am greeted with the following sentence “LEAVE COMMENT – SPEAK YOUR MIND, BUT BE RESPECTFUL!”
Do you think this article was “respectful”? or does it only apply to those who leave comments not those who write the articles?
You mischaracterize Rita…. anyone should/can have the right to critique anything. Just because it comes from a Meem website doesn’t invalidate it. That said, it wasn’t really a critique, it was a pot shot, which is unfortunate for those of us who are trying to engage in intelligent critique that goes beyond “you suck”.
“Fuck fag hags. Get yourself a boyfriend already.”
hahahaha i fucking loved this article. and i so did all my friends. thank u for posting it. and those who want to be negative about it… learn how to smile
awesome article. ***** <— five stars from me!
the “incestuous idiots” in the “yellow house” was actually a reference to meem, although i hate to spell it out cos it blows the fun of this piece now that we are analyzing and dissecting it.. this piece is a rant.. an angry rant.. it’s what we all want to say when we are tired.. it’s not an argument.. it’s not even the ‘opinion” of one person.. it’s one person who’s lashing out.. and lashing out is a perfectly acceptable way of expressing oneself.. this is a literary piece not a journalistic piece.. i am a gay activist myself and i’ve been active for many years (on and off) and it stung me to read it at first, but then i thought: yes, yes, indeed, fuck it all.
it’s obviously a way of saying: i’m exhausted, and we haven’t done enough. that’s the message i get from the piece.: we’re tired and we haven’t done enough. for some people, it’s a motivation to do more.. for others, it’s a fashit kholoq.
i am quite sure the columnist or the editors don’t mean it literally. otherwise, would they be publishing bekhsoos at all?
For Raja –> Thanks for your constructive critique